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And it’s, I mean, it’s hard to like, you kind of have to just see it. That is, those are the places where it is the most distinct and clear. I think it is in these moments where what we see the Black characters do lines up with what we hear the white characters say. I’m curious what you think about how the play makes those feelings seen and known. I think one of the things that the play conveys is something that feels deeply familiar and I think would be deeply familiar to a number of Black folks - that feeling of being surveilled and also that understanding that dominant narratives about us are not actually under our control.
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Ijames spoke to The Inquirer about the tensions of Fairview and what it has in common with Fat Ham. “I just feel really humbled, but I also feel like I’m in community with people who are really curious about the form or where the form can go… I feel like I can have a deeper conversation. I mean, there’s so many winners of the drama category that I’ve studied and poured over and acted in their work, directed their work,” said Ijames, also a theatre professor at Villanova University. “They’re all of these writers that I’ve admired my whole life that are in this category - Lynn Nottage, Suzan-Lori Parks, August Wilson, and Tony Kushner. The play won the Pulitzer earlier this month. The Wilma premiered Fat Ham as a filmed production in 2021. In line with Shakespeare, Juicy hears from his father’s ghost that uncle really did do the widowing. Hamlet becomes Juicy, a Black queer man suffering through the wedding of his newly widowed mom and uncle. A remix of Hamlet set to the tunes of African American cookout favorites, Fat Ham trades Hamlet’s Danish royalty for a barbecue family in the Black South.
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His play Fat Ham is currently on stage at the Public Theater in New York. “When it lines up, and you see what Jackie Sibblies Drury is trying to do with the text, it’s like magic.” Some of that text has to line up with the action pretty neatly. Having essentially two scenes happening at the same time in that second act. “And then, sort of the biggest obstacle after that is really just the technical aspects of doing it. Some of it is quite dark,” said James Ijames, the production’s director and Wilma’s lead artistic director. “The initial challenge getting the actors sort of emotionally in a place where they feel taken care of - it’s heavy material. First staged at New York’s Soho Rep in 2018, Jackie Sibblies Drury’s Fairview won the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 2019. It’s a play that can make one consider not just stereotypes more deeply, but forced narratives that can harm Black people. Both worlds play out on the stage at the same time. One world peers into dynamics between family, while the other world features conversations that get problematic and racist. Fairview, which begins preview showings at the Wilma Theater on May 31 before opening night June 4, follows a Black family preparing for a reclusive matriarch’s birthday dinner, then shows them being observed by a group of white people. Its plot is complex to stage the dialogue can be difficult to hear and say, and at times, the words are difficult to take.